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Elküldve: 2007. 01. 06. 11:05

Na ja, persze azok jobbak nala :)
Bar itthon meg nem igazan lattam notit elerheto aron 7800/8800 Go-val a fedelzeten. Ugy erzem azok olyan 300k HUF korul lennenek mar ha nem tobb. Tulajdonkeppen nem kene sokmindenre de ha mar igy rakerdeztel vajon Prey elfutna rajta? (Config: 1g ram, 2ghz 64bit Turion)

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Elküldve: 2007. 01. 06. 11:32

Idézet: Cellular - Dátum: 2007. jan. 6., szombat - 12:05

Ugy erzem azok olyan 300k HUF korul lennenek mar ha nem tobb.

Nos, általában asztali középkategóriás VGA-nak megfelelő cumók szoktak nem legmárkásabból olyan 340K-ba kerülni (ezért is meglepő a mostani "olcsó" X1600 Mobility dömping), egy ilyen csúcsgép inkább a duplája már, meg gondolom azokban kétmagos procit tesznek inkább.

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Tulajdonkeppen nem kene sokmindenre de ha mar igy rakerdeztel vajon Prey elfutna rajta? (Config: 1g ram, 2ghz 64bit Turion)

Mondjuk a Pray elég jól meg lett írva, szerintem el fut rajta, keress rá X1600 Mobility tesztekre, átlag minden VGA teszben benne szokott lenni a Pray/Doom3 is :)
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Elküldve: 2007. 01. 06. 12:22

nekem az X1800-as egy asztali 7600GT szintjét nyomja nagyából, és 320k volt a gép
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Elküldve: 2007. 01. 06. 13:35

Ami valljuk be nem volt olcso :cool:
Es ja, shaderek szamaban eleg kozeli a ketto, sebessegben kicsit jobb a GT de ez termeszetes egy Mobility-vel szemben.
Megprobaltam igy a magyar online laptop arusito oldalakon korulnezni hatha van ilyen csucsszuper VGA-s noti, hat nem talaltam. Plane 8800 Go-t es x1900-at. A legtobb 7300 Go (es gyengebb tarsai) es x1300 (es gyengebb tarsai).

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Elküldve: 2007. 01. 06. 14:13

Idézet: Cellular - Dátum: 2007. jan. 6., szombat - 14:35

Ami valljuk be nem volt olcso :cool:
Es ja, shaderek szamaban eleg kozeli a ketto, sebessegben kicsit jobb a GT de ez termeszetes egy Mobility-vel szemben.
Megprobaltam igy a magyar online laptop arusito oldalakon korulnezni hatha van ilyen csucsszuper VGA-s noti, hat nem talaltam. Plane 8800 Go-t es x1900-at. A legtobb 7300 Go (es gyengebb tarsai) es x1300 (es gyengebb tarsai).

egyrészt azért nem találhattál, mert nincs se Mobility X1900 se 8800Go  :Đ  de egyébként ugyesen megkerested :)
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Elküldve: 2007. 01. 06. 14:23

Heheh...akkor jo hogy nem dobott ki semmit :lol:

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Elküldve: 2007. 01. 06. 22:51

Mikorra varhato az ujabb Omega driver? Mert az ATi / AMD mar a 6.12-nel tart, az Omega pedig lemaradt a 6.9-nel, ami azert mar jo regi. Ez az egyetlen felturbositott driver, ami atveri az Acer laptopokat, es telepul a gyari driveren kivul, ezert ugy varom mar az ujabbar, mint a messiast!  :)

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Idézet: bepe_79 - Dátum: 2007. jan. 6., szombat - 23:51

Mikorra varhato az ujabb Omega driver? Mert az ATi / AMD mar a 6.12-nel tart, az Omega pedig lemaradt a 6.9-nel, ami azert mar jo regi. Ez az egyetlen felturbositott driver, ami atveri az Acer laptopokat, es telepul a gyari driveren kivul, ezert ugy varom mar az ujabbar, mint a messiast!  :)

ööö, és az az omega mit tud? :) lehet kipróbálnám én is :)
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Elküldve: 2007. 01. 06. 23:20

Idézet: _Tony_ - Dátum: 2007. jan. 6., szombat - 22:53

ööö, és az az omega mit tud? :) lehet kipróbálnám én is :)

Mindent, amit az ATi driver, plusz gyorsabb is, plusz nem CCC-s, hanem CP-s, plusz rengeteg uj ficccsor es egyeb van a changelogokban:

The Omega Drivers are compatible with all ATI Radeon cards:
(it doesn't matter if they are DDR, SDR, PCI, PCI-E, AGP, Mobile, Retail, OEM or 3rd Party)

Radeon All In Wonder
Radeon 7x00/VE/LE
Radeon 8500/LE
Radeon 9x00/SE/Pro/XT/TX
Radeon X Series /SE/Pro/XT/PE
Radeon X 1k Series
All Mobility Radeons (M6 and up)

What's New in Omega Drivers?
v3.8.291

[*] Based on the Catalyst 6.9 Official drivers.

[*] Soft mods are now supplied by Tech Power Up.

[*] Updated to Multires 1.58

Known Issues:
1) From Cat 6.6 and up ATI removed driver-level support for the following series of cards (including Mobility models): 7000, 7200, 7500, 8500, 9000, 9200, 9250. Since the Omega Drivers use ATI drivers as a base, that means they will also not include support for these chipsets, they may install, but the PC may give you a BSOD or a black screen upon boot.
2) A few minutes after the release I noticed I forgot to change the internal version numbers on the drivers, the drivers are in fact the 6.9, but the info in the Control Panel and other utilities will tell you they are the 6.8, ignore this, is a typo, sorry for any confusions this may have caused.


What's new for ATI Tray Tools?
1.2.6.930

[+] Added configuration dialog for Overdrive 3. You can use it if you don't want to overclock your board on low level or if you have a problem with low level overclocking. Remember this option will be active only if your video board support Overdrive version 3 and ATI HotKey poller service is started.

[+] Added overclocking support for X1300/X1600/X1800/X1900. Memory overclocking for X1300 doesn't work in this release. Also remember that you must disable ATI HotKey poller if your board can operate in 2D/3D mode or your clocks always will be resets to ATI default clocks. Try do not overclock your board while any 3D games are active. Do it before launching game via game profiles it is a safest way.

[*] Updated color correction hotkeys, to support new color correction formula

[*] Updated 3D renderer and benchmark module.

[F] Fixed situation when 3D renderer shows artifacts after using benchmark module.

[+] Added support for Avivo Colors correction. Hue/Saturation will only work on R5xx video boards. There are no way to activate them for old video board, so do not ask me about it.

[*] Updated auto FAN control functionality for R5xx boards.

[*] Updated system information module. Added basic information about Overdrive support.

[F] Fixed broken OSD functionality for Direct3D8 games and applications.

[F] Fixed detection of current 3D profile with no GI option included

[*] Now Shared memory information about FreeVideo and Texture memory will be updated only if 3D game or application is active and OSD enabled.

[*] Updated FlashOSD module. Added voltages information for X1xxx video boards and ASUS Video boards with FinTEK sensor (like 9600XT/9800XT)

[F] Fixed rendering procedure in FlashOSD module for some of non-alpabetical characters.

[F] Fixed bug when "Scale image to panel size" option doesn't work in certain situations.

[+] Updated support for HDTV modes. Added a few new modes. Only supported modes can be adjusted. Note some modes can be disabled in certain situation, such as display rotation

[+] Added support for "Preserve Aspect Ratio" option in Display module. If supported by LCD or DFP display.

[F] Fixed bug with hotkey for decreasing contrast in color correction procedure.

[+] Added GPU and Memory Voltage control procedure for X1600/X1800/X19xx (if supported by hardware)

[*] Monitoring Graphs window now will be automatically reopened after suspend mode if it was active before entering into Suspend mode.

[+] Added option to Force TV Detection.If you are using an older TV or one that has non-standard inputs that may not be automatically detected, use Force TV Detection.

[+] Added test support for X1300/X1600/X1800/X19xx Radeon video boards into TV Out/Display module.

[*] Improved TV Out support for mobility chips. ATT has partial support for mobility chips, so do not expect a lot :)

[*] Updated Core names database. Added information about RV570/RV535 chips.

[+] Added option to automatically shutdown "ATI HotKey Poller" for R5xx board. If you want to use overclocking functions in ATI Tray Tools for those video boards, you must always disable "ATI HotKey Poller" service to prevent from resetting clocks and voltages to default state.

[F] Fixed FlashOSD functionality corrected wrongly shown GPU/Memory speed for R5xx video board in 3D mode.

[+] Added localization support. Big thanks to all who helped to translate ATI Tray Tools into other languages.

[+] Added new command line parameters:
  /LDSD - Load "Default Single Display" profile
  /EXD - Turn Extended Desktop On/Off

[+] Added an ability to skip overclocking at start up. Just press left CTRL button while windows is loading.


What was in previous Omega Drivers?
v3.8.273

[*] Based on the Catalyst 6.7 Official drivers.

[*] Added some fixes for x300/x600 chipsets on laptops.

[*] Updated to Multires 1.57.


What was in previous ATI Tray Tools?
1.0.5.880

[F] Fixed bug with auto fan control on R5xx boards (X1600/X1800/X1900)

[*] Updated injection code to allow to use custom made (fake) d3d dll files.

[F] Fixed bug with loading color profile using hot keys


Other Important Notes:

1. CCC will work with the Omega Drivers, but is NOT recommended that you install it, all the functions found in CCC are already included with RadLinker Omega Edition or will be included in a near future as this new CP project develops.

2. The Omega Drivers use a special ATI Tray Tools version with the following features:

> Use very little resources.
> Doesn't require .NET to work.
> Lots of new settings for both D3D and OGL.
> Automatic Per-application profiles.
> Trilinear filtering can be forced for Anisotropic filtering.
> Catalyst AI support.
> Support for ATI Control Center.
> Support for TV Out and displays with profiles.
> Options to change Theater mode together with TV Out.
> Overclocking with templates including FAN Control.
> Automatic overclocking when application required 3D mode.
> Temperature monitoring.
> Artifact Tester with ability to find maximum stable clocks for GPU and Memory.
> Game profiles with desktop shortcut creation.
> Direct3D settings with templates, GUI form and tray popup menu.
> OpenGL settings with templates, GUI form and tray popup menu.
> Hardware low level color correction.
> Hardware tweaks. Setting PCI latency timer.
> Radeon Information Show information about memory type, active rendering pipe lines and more.
> System wide Hot Keys. (Load profiles any profiles/work with colors/run any application)
> Refresh Lock system with ability to set separate refresh rates for each resolution.
> Tweak for overriding Pixel and Vertex Shaders.
> Speed improvement tweaks for Anisotropic/Trilinear Filtering. Support for Catalyst A.I.
> Unique OSD system. Displays FPS, GPU/Memory speed and temperatures, FAN speed.
> Support for system options, VPU Recover, DMA Copy and so on.
> Support Display Rotation.
> Support for MMC applications.
> Support for HYDRAVISION applications.
> Monitoring Graphs. (GPU/Env temperature. GPU/Mem speed, Main CPU Usage).
> A lot of useful things. Like Save/Restore Desktop icon positions and more.
> Audio Recorder.
> Screenshots system.
> Powerful Plug-Ins support.
> PCI Register Set. Allow to program any registers in any PCI device at start up time. (For advanced users only!)

The drivers where made in conjunction with Ray Adams, maker of ATI Tray Tools, as an exclusive feature for the Omega Drivers and we will keep adding features in future releases.


REMINDERS:
A- If you have the normal ATI drivers installed, uninstall the ATI Control Panel or CCC BEFORE upgrading to these drivers, the Omega Drivers already have the CP integrated and another CP will cause conflicts or other problems.

B- There is no need to uninstall ANY previous drivers (ATI or OMEGA) when installing these, the new ones will overwrite any previous settings, but if you still want to uninstall them completely, is ok.

C- In Windows 2k/XP, ALWAYS disable DDC in the ATI "Displays/Monitor" CP after installing drivers to be able to use ALL the refresh rates and resolutions your monitor supports, also this is the best way to avoid the 60Hz RR bug.

D- The WDM drivers for VIVO and AIW cards are not included, but they can be downloaded separately from a link in my drivers page.

E- The Radeon cards do support FastWrites and they will work with it on (on some machines), but it is not recommended, there is NO SPEED gain when using FW, and this option will affect your PC's stability a LOT, most game crashes and problems are because FW is enabled. The only time I recommend using FW on is with Radeon 9600 cards that doesn't work properly with FW off or for Athlon64 system with any Radeon AGP card.

F- Install the included Multires utility to have access to ALL the available resolutions in the Omega Drivers, standard Windows doesn't show all of them.

G- After installing the new drivers and rebooting, if your desktop is SLOW and games won't run, is because AGP acceleration has been disabled by Windows, in order to fix this you MUST re-install the latest AGP chipset drivers for your Mother Board (this also includes laptops). After rebooting check the Advanced SmartGart Options in the Omega Start Menu and see if at least AGP/PCI read are both ENABLED, if all of them are enabled, the better, but some MBs doesn't support AGP/PCI write functions, if all still disabled, just click on "Retest All" and press OK to restart.

H- If you are using an Omega soft-mod and you are experiencing crashes, black screens, artifacts or the "check board effect" during game play, run the new included Driver Swapper utility and select the Normal driver, the reason is that your card is not accepting the soft-mod due to broken/incompatible hardware.

I- See Omega FAQ for further questions.


Extra info:

I don't recommend the use of ANY external tweakers with my drivers (like Rage3D Tweaker or ATITool), as they override my special settings and will make my work useless. The only time I recommend a tweaker is when you have a specific problem with a specific tweak and need to change it in order to make the drivers work correctly. Also if you use a tweaker for overclocking, FSAA, Gamma or Aniso settings, is just fine, but you'll be better off using the integrated ATI CP/RadLinker for that (which is ok if you change any setting in it).

If you have any problems with this drivers please go to my webpage and look in the ATI help section for answers. If still have problems look for the drivers thread in DriverHeaven.net forums and let me know what is going on.

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Elküldve: 2007. 01. 12. 18:49

Acer Aspire 5050 / 5051-eshez uj VGA(IGP) driver (ATi Radeon Xpress 1100-hoz):

ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/notebook/...HQL%20(ZR3).zip

Ver. 8.301.0.0

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Hozzászólás ikon  Elküldve: 2007. 01. 12. 19:10

CES 2007: MSI Notebooks with Crystals and New ATI X2600 and Nvidia NB8P Graphics Cards
Jesszusom! Mennyit fogyaszthat ez a Mobility X2600?  :think:

Szerk.: Hopp, sikerült pont lapozni, ha érdekel valakit előző oldalon az Omega driver előnyei és tudása szerepel lap alján. Nem hátrány Mobility ügyben ismerni.

Szerkesztette: Inquisitor 2007. 01. 12. 19:13 -kor

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Elküldve: 2007. 01. 15. 01:17

Nem kis ujdonsagot hoztam nektek!

Radeon Omega Drivers 3.8.330 (Catalyst 7.1):

http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=Files&g...veme&dwn_id=365

What's New in Omega Drivers?
v3.8.330

[*] Based on the Catalyst 7.1 Official drivers.

[+] Added support for some new chipsets.

[*] Clarified some options in the installer.

Known Issues:
1) From Cat 6.6 and up ATI removed driver-level support for the following series of cards (including Mobility models): 7000, 7200, 7500, 8500, 9000, 9200, 9250. Since the Omega Drivers use ATI drivers as a base, that means they will also not include support for these chipsets, they may install, but the PC may give you a BSOD or a black screen upon boot. People that need to install Omega Drivers on these cards should use v3.8.252 or older, you can get these on the Archive section of my site.


What's new for ATI Tray Tools?
1.2.6.964

[F] Fixed procedure to display memory clocks as DDR in Overclocking Window.

[*] Updated tray icon

[+] Added hotkeys to switch monitor rotation between 0/90 and 0/270

[+] Added Romanian translation

[*] Updated existing translation files

[+] Added Memory IO voltage control for X1xxx video boards.

[+] Updated GUI interface for some dialog boxes

[*] Updated core names database

[+] Added 500ms delay before restoring previous 3D settings after exiting from game. If this included in game profile.

[*] Updated text rendering procedure in FlashOSD module

[*] Updated overclocking support for RV570 and RV560 boards. Thanks Unwinder for help and information.


What was in previous Omega Drivers?
v3.8.291

[*] Based on the Catalyst 6.9 Official drivers.

[*] Soft mods are now supplied by Tech Power Up.

[*] Updated to Multires 1.58

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Idézet: bepe_79 - Dátum: 2007. jan. 15., hétfő - 2:17

Nem kis ujdonsagot hoztam nektek!

Radeon Omega Drivers 3.8.330 (Catalyst 7.1):
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köszi :)
kár, hogy lusta vagyok most egyelőre lelőni a zenét, feltelepíteni, újraindítani, tesztelgetni... :) meg pláne, hogy holnap vizsgázom :( de azért lekapom
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Elküldve: 2007. 01. 15. 12:17

x1100-as milyen rendes vga-nak felel meg?
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Elküldve: 2007. 01. 15. 13:09

Idézet: charlie - Dátum: 2007. jan. 15., hétfő - 12:17

x1100-as milyen rendes vga-nak felel meg?

x300

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Elküldve: 2007. 01. 15. 13:42

és az jo?
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Idézet: charlie - Dátum: 2007. jan. 15., hétfő - 13:17

x1100-as milyen rendes vga-nak felel meg?

Semmilyennek. Egy felére butított X300 (fele pipe!), amit tetéz a rendszer memória használata. Szóval optimista esetben kb. harmadát-negyedét tudja sebességben, mint egy X300.
Integrált VGA-ból (IGP) a GF6100/6150 mellett a leggyorsabb VGA, leszámítva  afrissen megjelent RS690G chipsetet (X1250?), mert az vagy 2,5x gyorsabb nála minimum.
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Elküldve: 2007. 01. 15. 14:04

ööö, a hsz-ed masodik fele nem világos egészen... melyik a leggyorsab integrált vga?
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Idézet: charlie - Dátum: 2007. jan. 15., hétfő - 14:04

ööö, a hsz-ed masodik fele nem világos egészen... melyik a leggyorsab integrált vga?

A GeForce 6100 / Geforce 6150, az ATi Radeon Xpress 1100/1150 chipset (Radeon 200M, ~Radeon X300), es az RS690G.

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Elküldve: 2007. 01. 15. 19:44

Nekem mar az uj, Omega 7.1 fut az ATi Radeon Xpress 1100 chipsetem alatt, es eddig minden okes, semmi gond!  :up:

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